In John 9 we are told of Jesus’ interaction with the person whom he previously healed of blindness. Upon learning of his troubles with the Judean authorities Jesus said: “’Do you believe in the Son of Man?’ He answered, “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?” Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you.” And he said, “Lord, I believe.” And he worshiped Him. (John 9:35-38) The Book of Enoch, a Jewish pre-Christian literary work, testifies that among Jews even before Jesus there were already well developed notions of the Son of Man. The lined up quite well with the figure of the gospel’s Son of Man (Yeshua/Jesus).
1. And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness
Which was inexhaustible:
And around it were many fountains of wisdom;
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom,
And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect.
2. And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits,
And his name before the Head of Days.
3. Yea, before the sun and the signs were created,
Before the stars of the heaven were made,
His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.
4. He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall,
And he shall be the light of the Gentiles,
And the hope of those who are troubled of heart (click here).
5. All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him,
And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits.
6. And for this reason hath he been chosen and hidden before Him,
Before the creation of the world and for evermore (click here).
Book of Enoch, Translation by R. H. Charles (1917). Chapter 48.1-6
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I have heard of this aspect of the Book of Enoch before. Are there any particular passages in the Gospels that indicate if the evangelists and disciples recognised the fulfilment of this motif (John 1 springs to mind in parallel to Enoch 48:3, although this may have been pure Divine Inspiration on John's part)? Do any of the crowd's responses to Jesus in speech reflect an understanding of Him claiming Godhood in relation to the Son of Man and Lord of Spirits concept - for instance, at the "before Abraham was, I AM!" moment? Does Enoch mention Divine atonement? Jesus didn't say Before Abraham was created I Am, this was Yahweh speaking through Jesus, Jesus clearly said the words your hearing are not my own but the Father is speaking through me, so, Yahweh was speaking to the Jews through Jesus, God was confirming that sent Jesus. The Most High... ROBED Himself... Jude may have cited the Book of Enoch as an example of a clever Jewish Gnostic text--knowing that Enoch was not the "seventh from Adam" but rather the sixth. A prevalent theme in the Book of Jude is combating false teaching. "Enoch" adds fanciful tales or even contradicts Scripture. It pretends to be the work of Enoch himself which, unless the writer also claims to be a time-traveler, is invalidated by the fact that "Enoch" speaks of Noah (Enoch 10:2) and the real Enoch was taken up to heaven before Noah was born. In any case, Ezekiel was constantly called the "Son of Man" (indicating his human mortality) while Daniel 7:13-14 refers to another "Son of Man," prefiguring the Messiah as a divine/human being to whom is given "...authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed." Isn't בן אדם just a human, a human being in Hebrew? Hi Urmas. The "Son of Man" isn't always used in the same way from one book to another. For example in the Book of Ezekiel, "The Son of Man" does seem to stress a human being. However, in the Book of Daniel "the Son of Man" is a very different kind of figure - We are glad that you are finding our articles enlightening. You’ve already started your path into Scripture, but there’s so much more that awaits you! Consider enrolling in our immersive online courses: The Jewish Apostle Paul I: His World or The Jewish Gospel of John I: The Arrival of the King. We guarantee that they will deepen your understanding of Scripture and enrich your faith experience. I am curious about the “song of the Lord of Spirits”. I read that Hebrew music was more about a grouping of events. The article made singing (in my mind) sound very similar to the description I read about in God’s testimonies (remembrance – visual and tangible representations of past events or the Almighty’s covenants). I would not have had a word "Holy Spirit", but I did have remembrances/revelations (grouping of events) that caused me to recognize Christ. Hi Iove reading snippets of scriptures given with Jewish insight. But unfortunately I can afford to do the course. I’m 70 on a basic pension. Love the information that’s sent. Thank you. Linda, blessing in Yeshua Shalom Linda, I am so glad that you are a part of our community. I pray that these insights will continue to be a blessing to you! I also can't afford the classes, although I would jump in immediately if I could! These articles bless me also. The greatest thing that I could possibly share, is The Book Of Mormon. A history of people from Jerusalem, that left their home and took their genealogy with them. It also speaks about the time that Jesus visited them in the Americas. Through the prophet Joseph Smith, the Gospel Of Jesus Christ has been restored to the earth. It is for everyone to witness the truth and I assure you that I willingly add my name to testify of its truthfulness. So please take time to read it and may you be blessed as I am. I am confused someone advising to read the book of Mormons Mark, learn Christianity formally from the Catholic teachings and you will be enlightened that Jesus founded the RCC. There is no other Messiah / Prophet after Jesus. J Smith was a derailed delusional false prophet. Toss out the Book of Mormons with distortions of the Bible and be guided by the true Holy Spirit. Get the Douay / Rheims version with the Catechism of the RCC and its Compendium and even so KJB or The Jerusalem Bible. God bless you and keep on searching the Truth. NOT! Sorry, but the Book of Mormon and it's doctrines has nothing to do with the Bible! The Book of Mormons is false theology written by another false prophet /teacher .Mormons are not Jews ! Mormons did not come from The Sovereign Nation of Israel .Were Mormons given the Torah and Tanakh ? Did the Mormons speak Hebrew ? Were the Mormons given the Holy Mitz'vah on Mt .Sinai ? The people who call themselves Mormons are Goyim /Gentiles .Do Mormons honor the Appointed Times of Adonai ? Y'Shua Himself is a Jew ! John Smith was a false teacher and false prophet like Mohammed . Hebrews 11:5 "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God" Jude 1:14 "Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints," Enoch 62:9 "And all the kings and the mighty and the exalted and those who rule the earth Shall fall down before him on their faces, And worship and set their hope upon that Son of Man, And petition Him for mercy at His Hands" Hi Boone. Enoch in the NT? Hmmmmmm ........ ? That should challenge a few folks! We are very happy that you’ve joined our discussion forum. Would you believe that these articles are only a taste of what Israel Bible Center has to offer? We also provide comprehensive teaching on a variety of biblical, historical, and cultural topics. You might begin with Leviticus and The New Testament or Revelation in a Jewish Context II : Discovery. You’ll be amazed at the Jewish world that awaits you. Don’t delay another minute: enroll now! There are so many gems in the Book of Enoch that are completely missed by Christians today. It is sad that so many books were taken out from the original Scriptures to form the King James Bible upon which every other English translation is based. Hi Tamar. Well, I think things are a bit more complicated than that. Remember, the Book of Enoch is also not included in the Jewish Bible (The Tanak) - not merely the Protestant KJV. But you're right - a lot of Christians miss out on the fact that there are some real gems in the Book of Enoch. Israel Bible Center equips you with the tools you need to enter into the Jewish world of Scripture. We provide first-rate teaching, and the opportunity to learn from some of the world’s top scholars. As a student, you will be able to interact personally with our teaching faculty, and gain access to hundreds of hours of Bible courses, including The Jewish Apostle Paul I: His World and The Jewish Gospel of John I: The Arrival of the King. Become a part of the community of teachers and students at Israel Bible Center today! I do not consider that Jesus is God, but rather that he was in God's plan from the very beginning of creation. The creator knew that man (Adam) would fail and instead of destroying man, allowed man to continue until the one that was prophesied in Gen 3:15 would come to destroy sin (Jesus himself was sinless, but sin is still with us until Christ returns to set up his kingdom), but who was in the presence of sin (i.e., sin was nipping at his heel). Hi Horst, I'm sure you realize, of course, that texts like First Enoch "open the door" for Gospel's presentation of Jesus's divine nature. Horst, sad that you do not understand the Blessed Trinity properly. When I experienced an epiphany and being slain in the Spirit in 1987, I experienced God's love for me. God whispered in my right ear "my dear child give all your problems to me." I could not figure it out then later discerned it was the Blessed Trinity. I could not separate Jesus in the beautiful experience. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you. It could happen to you anytime anywhere. You do not to be in a prayer meeting.
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IN FLESH... & tabernacled among us.
Jesus IS God, manifest IN THE FLESH. Until you can grasp that, you will be filled w confusion.
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